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Saturday, October 21, 2017

In Search of the Schulte Line, Part 3: International Affairs

Joseph Meyer Schulte and his niece, Lizzie Schulte
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My grandmother wrote on this photograph, "Grandpa Schulte - Lizzie Schulte, his niece." (Evelyn deliberated over the spelling of niece, as I always do, and went the wrong way with it!) The photo was taken by H.A. Coesfeld of Detroit (rubberstamped on the back of the cardboard mount).

The photo didn't come to me until after Evelyn's death in 1988. My mother wasn't able to tell me anything about this niece, probably because her great grandfather Joseph died in October 1921, a year before she was born. I briefly considered the possibility that Evelyn had made a mistake, and meant to write "Lizzie Schulte, his daughter," but Lizzie the daughter was Evelyn's mother. That certainly doesn't seem like the kind of mistake she would make, even if she was a little forgetful.

I made a very high resolution scan of the photo (720 ppi) to see if I could get a better look at Joseph and his niece, and was surprised with the amount of detail that was available. In the original photo, Lizzie's face is just 1/16" wide, and Joseph's just a tiny bit wider, but still less than 1/8". In the enlargement below, you can clearly see facial expressions, the wrinkles in Joseph's knuckles, and the needlework project that Lizzie is knitting or crocheting. You can also see the house address, 942.

(click to enlarge)

In May 2005, I emailed a copy of this photo to my Schulte cousin Cheryl, with some questions:
To me, this seems to mean that Joseph Meyer Schulte had a brother who had a daughter named Lizzie, and that she was in Detroit at some point in time. Do you have any more info on that? Something that would shed some light on who this Lizzie is? Do you know whether Joseph had a brother? Do you know who might have had a home address with the number 942?
She didn't, and we began our quest to find the German roots of the Schulte family. You've read quite a bit about that already in Part 1 and Part 2.

The Schulte family immigrated in 1872, and to date, we are not aware that they made any return visit to Germany when Joseph's wife Alvina was still alive. We discovered, however, that after her death in 1902, Joseph did travel back to his homeland, several times, in fact.

(click to enlarge any ship manifest in this post)

In 1904, Joseph returned from a trip to Germany. Although his name appears alone on the ship manifest above, he was not traveling alone. His companion was listed on a different page:

As far as we know, this was the niece Elisabeth's first trip to the U.S. We were convinced that these two records belong to our Schultes because of the destination given in Elisabeth's record: Uncle Joseph Schulte, 942 Forest Ave. E. Str., Detroit, Mich. This is the same house address that appears in our photo of Joseph and niece Lizzie.

Cheryl found another manifest for these two traveling companions in 1906, and once again their destination was 942 Forest Avenue E.

(left side of 1909 manifest)

In 1909, Elisabeth apparently traveled alone to Germany and back. In this record of her return, it's noted that she is a non-immigrant alien, and we were very excited to discover the name of her father, Heinrich Schulte, and even his street address in Hamm, Germany.

(right side of 1909 manifest)

We also learned that Joseph had moved to 1220 Bellevue in Detroit, and we found him and Lizzie enumerated there in the 1910 census.

(left side of 1911 manifest)

All this international travel must have been pretty expensive, don't you think? It seems Joseph was determined to spend our inheritance*, so off they went, he and Lizzie, to Germany again in 1911. I won't say this record of their return is better than an inheritance, but Cheryl and I were seriously excited to learn that Lizzie's mother's name was also Elisabeth, that her father had apparently died since her last trip home, and that her mother was living in Münster.

(right side of 1911 manifest)

What's more, we also learned that Lizzie was born in Hamm, and was 5'7" with blond hair and brown eyes.

Lizzie's father Heinrich was born in Beckum, like his younger siblings including Joseph.

10 March 1841 birth and baptism record of Johann Heinrich Schulte
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Heinrich was one of seven children born to Johann Hermann Meÿer Schulte and his wife, Maria Gertrud Hagedorn.

Hermann was more than three decades older than Gertrud. (Their marriage record appears in Part 2.) It's possible she was not his first wife, but I didn't find any other marriage records for him in the Beckum churchbooks.

1855 death record of Herman Schulte, weaver
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In addition, a Beckum death record which appears to be his indicated he was survived by six living children, all of whom seem to be accounted for in the Family Group Record below. In this entry, the age appears to be off by two and a half years. Herman would have turned 67 in December 1855. However, I didn't find any other death records in the appropriate timeframe, and Gertrud Hagedorn remarried in 1859.

1859 marriage of Heinrich Altepeter and the widow of weaver Herm. Schulte
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Although the marriage record does not show Gertrud's given name, subsequent birth records for the Altepeter children do.


Husband: Johan Hermann MEŸER (also MEŸER SCHULTE)
Born: 14 December 1788 in Herzfeld, Westfalen, Germany
Father: Johan Herman MEŸER
Mother: Maria Clara FRIDERICI
Married: 11 August 1840 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany
Died: 20 May 1855 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany
Burial: 23 May 1855 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany

Wife: Maria Gertrud HAGEDORN
Born: 13 December 1820 in Wadersloh, Westfalen, Germany
Father: unnamed
Mother: Clara Elisabeth HAGEDORN
Second Husband: Heinrich ALTEPETER
Married: 8 February 1859 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany


1 Name: Johann Heinrich SCHULTE
Born: 10 March 1841 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany
[Proposed] Spouse: Elisabeth ---
[Proposed] Died: About 1910 in Westfalen, Germany

2 Name: Joseph (Meyer) SCHULTE
Born: 7 February 1843 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany
Married: About 1866 in Germany
Spouse: Alvina Tobian
Died: 16 October 1921 in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan
Burial: 18 October 1921 in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan

3 Name: Johann Theodor SCHULTE
Born : 10 January 1846 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany

4 Name: Maria Christina SCHULTE
Born: 6 February 1849 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany

5 Name: Louise (Ludewica) SCHULTE
Born: 9 January 1851 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany
Died: 31 January 1851 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany

6 Name: Maria Gertrud SCHULTE
Born: 22 December 1851 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany

7 Name: Franz SCHULTE
Born: 11 December 1853 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany


1 Name: Stephan ALTEPETER
Born: 21 August 1859 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany

2 Name: Anna Elisabeth ALTEPETER
Born: 19 November 1861 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany

3 Name: Johan Heinrich ALTEPETER
Born: 28 October 1865 in Beckum, Westfalen, Germany


But wait! There's more! Coming up in Part 4! Boy, were we surprised! Just wait till you learn what Cheryl found when she sorted through a box of papers!

Do you have any suspicions yet? Any interesting theories or hypotheses? You might. You could. The groundwork has been laid.


*My grandmother used to say that Grandpa Schulte came to this country with fifty cents and died with $100,000, leaving $20,000 to each of his children and $2,000 to each of his grandchildren. He must have been very successful in his various occupations: blacksmith, moneylender, insurance agent, and real estate agent.


Carnival of Genealogy: Surnames

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Juliane's granddaughter said...

Wonderful presentation; you really put all the data 'out there' and it is exciting just to read it all again. We actually should be proud of ourselves; we have discovered a lot. Still need that trip to the homeland, though. I think between August 6 and September 12, 2008 would be a good time??? I still say that inheritance is sitting there in Germany waiting for two great-great granddaughters to claim it; just think of all the interest.

T.K. said...

Ah, Jul's, it's good to have a fantasy life! ;-)

Becky said...

Very interesting. I'm looking forward to the next "chapter" in the Mystery of Meyer-Schulte. You and Jul's really should go to Germany!

T.K. said...

Aw, Becky, did Jul's hire you to twist my arm?

Becky said...

No, but if she wants me to, I can try twisting the other arm if it will help her get you to Germany ;-)

T.K. said...

"Ow! Ow! Ow!" yelped the poor twisted woman. "Not my good arm too!"

Brian said...

Interesting - I'm a Schulte, and my family definitely came over from Germany. My father has a brother Joseph, and sister Erica. I do not recall my father's parents names, as they both passed away before I was born, but I did have an Aunt Maria Schulte. The commonality of the first names combined with the last name Schulte is a little intriguing. I'm wondering if there's a connection here...

T.K. said...

Although I haven't run across an Erica in my Schulte line, Brian, that doesn't mean there isn't one! I'd like to hear from you again if you're able to find out more. Best wishes!

Our Family in Books: A Bibliography

  • My Ancestors in Books (a library of resources and notes pertaining to Reverend Samuel Stone, Major General Robert Sedgwick, Elder John Crandall, and other early Americans in the forest where my family tree was grown)
  • The Zahnisers: A History of the Family in America by Kate M. Zahniser and Charles Reed Zahniser (Mercer, Pa. 1906)
  • History of St. James Lutheran Church [full title: A little of this and a little of that in the 141 year (1861-2002) History of St. James Lutheran Church, Reynolds Indiana] by Harold B. Dodge, published at Reynolds, Indiana, 2002; 170 pages.
  • Lisbon, North Dakota 1880-2005 Quasuicentennial, published at Lisbon, North Dakota in 2005; 391 pages.
  • The Paschen and Redd Families of Cass County, Indiana by Alfred Paschen, c. 2005 (Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimore, MD); 322 pages.
  • Sheldon Community History: Sheldon Centennial 1881-1981, published at Sheldon, North Dakota in 1981; 376 pages.
  • Sheldon, North Dakota 1881-2006 - 125th Anniversary: The Queen of the Prairie, published at Sheldon, North Dakota in 2006; 498 pages.
  • A Standard History of White County, Indiana, written under the supervision of W.H. Hamelle, c. 1915 (The Lewis Publishing Company, Chicago and New York).
  • The Roots of Coventry, Connecticut by Betty Brook Messier and Janet Sutherland Aronson, c. 1987 (Coventry 275th Anniversary Committee, Coventry, CT); 206 pages.
  • "Elder John Crandall of Rhode Island and His Descendants" by John Cortland Crandall; New Woodstock, New York, 1949; 797 pages.
  • "The Descendants of Robert Burdick of Rhode Island." Nellie (Willard) Johnson, Pd.B.: H & L Creations, LLC.

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