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Saturday, October 21, 2017

In Search of the Schulte Line, Part 8: The Superpower of Two

At the conclusion of Part 7 of this series, we were left lusting after two Hebert passports issued in 1936 and 1957. Since then, I've learned that the U.S. Department of State holds all passport applications from Apr. 1925 to the present, and because our Fred and Elizabeth Hebert were born more than 100 years ago, we could theoretically obtain those documents. That's the good news.

And now you are probably suspecting that there's bad news as well, which is true. Because I'd rather own Time than Stuff, I'm not willing to get a job to enhance my budget sufficiently to allow spending $60 a pop to get two passports I can't even use to go anywhere. Which, by the way, I also can't afford. So we'll have to let that go until the price comes down, while we move on to other equally exciting documents.

During the two-year interval between Parts 5 and 6 of In Search of the Schulte Line, the Bloodhound Cousins have been occupied with a lot of other things. Both Cheryl and I have moved to new addresses, and Cheryl has been kept very busy at work. But we've kept sniffing around for all things Schulte or Hebert.

In 2008, I had some amazing good luck using FamilySearch Record Search. Indexed under the names Alfred Hebert (not Fred or Frederick) and Elizabeth Tehulte (not Schulte!), I found this record of their marriage:

Alfred Hebert and Elizabeth Schulte,
married 8 February 1913 in Detroit,Wayne County, Michigan
(click to enlarge)

To find this record, I searched on the surname Hebert only. A search for "Fred Hebert" produced two records, but neither was correct. And of course, a search for Schulte would not have produced this record either since Elizabeth's surname is misindexed.

Fred and Elizabeth were married 8 February 1913. Fred was 41 and was employed as an inspector (of what?--no indication is given, but this was probably an industrial job). His father's name was Charles, and his mother is listed as Philomena Treyn. Elizabeth's parents are listed as Henry and Elizabeth (unfortunately, no maiden name was given for her).

According to this record, Fred Hebert had been married twice before. Although we hadn't found anything definitive, Cheryl and I had suspected Fred had a prior marriage, but we hadn't expected two. Cheryl promptly got us this record of his second marriage from Ancestry:

Alfred Hebert and Bertha Schultz,married 14 January 1911 in Windsor, Essex County, Ontario
(click to enlarge)

And while she was at it, Cheryl found something else too, something we've been looking for since 2007 and are so excited to have. Her discovery came just before Randy Seaver's Saturday Night Genealogy Fun, the topic of which was, "What's Your Genealogical Superpower?" (Yes, I know that was two weeks ago. See how I am?) Cheryl and I have made amazing progress in researching our Schulte line since we began bouncing Schulte questions and documents back and forth--progress neither of us would have made working alone. Our genealogical superpower is The Superpower of Two, and once again the Bloodhound Cousins have fabulous documents to show for it.

But before we get to that awesome find, let's take a look at the marriage record of Fred and his second wife, Bertha Schultz (with a "z"--Schultz, not Schulte--no relation).

You've got to love those Canadian marriage forms. They're so informative! (This is not the first one we've encountered in our search for Schulte documents.) From this record we learn that both Fred and his second wife Bertha had been widowed. Bertha, age 35 and a Lutheran, was the daughter of Albert Wagner and Henrietta Klidone. Fred was 39, a Roman Catholic, and his mother is listed here as Philomene Traylor. His father Charles was machinist, and Fred was working as a painter.

Fred and Bertha were both residing in Detroit, but went to Windsor to get married. The reason they gave was that they wished to avoid publicity. It appears they didn't even take friends along to be witnesses--the marriage was solemnized by W. H. Snelgrove, and both witnesses were also Snelgroves.

Although this document answered some questions, it raised others. And in so doing, it also led to yet another item we've been hunting for. We'll look at that in Part 9.

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about Cheryl's fantastic find. We'll save it for Part 10, because it's worthy of double digits!


Apple said...

You are such a tease!

T.K. said...

Wha.... who, me?

Our Family in Books: A Bibliography

  • My Ancestors in Books (a library of resources and notes pertaining to Reverend Samuel Stone, Major General Robert Sedgwick, Elder John Crandall, and other early Americans in the forest where my family tree was grown)
  • The Zahnisers: A History of the Family in America by Kate M. Zahniser and Charles Reed Zahniser (Mercer, Pa. 1906)
  • History of St. James Lutheran Church [full title: A little of this and a little of that in the 141 year (1861-2002) History of St. James Lutheran Church, Reynolds Indiana] by Harold B. Dodge, published at Reynolds, Indiana, 2002; 170 pages.
  • Lisbon, North Dakota 1880-2005 Quasuicentennial, published at Lisbon, North Dakota in 2005; 391 pages.
  • The Paschen and Redd Families of Cass County, Indiana by Alfred Paschen, c. 2005 (Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimore, MD); 322 pages.
  • Sheldon Community History: Sheldon Centennial 1881-1981, published at Sheldon, North Dakota in 1981; 376 pages.
  • Sheldon, North Dakota 1881-2006 - 125th Anniversary: The Queen of the Prairie, published at Sheldon, North Dakota in 2006; 498 pages.
  • A Standard History of White County, Indiana, written under the supervision of W.H. Hamelle, c. 1915 (The Lewis Publishing Company, Chicago and New York).
  • The Roots of Coventry, Connecticut by Betty Brook Messier and Janet Sutherland Aronson, c. 1987 (Coventry 275th Anniversary Committee, Coventry, CT); 206 pages.
  • "Elder John Crandall of Rhode Island and His Descendants" by John Cortland Crandall; New Woodstock, New York, 1949; 797 pages.
  • "The Descendants of Robert Burdick of Rhode Island." Nellie (Willard) Johnson, Pd.B.: H & L Creations, LLC.

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